Evolution Happened....

[7phxignited7]

Sorry about the title because i don't believe evolution ever happened, but a lot of earlier Christian's incorporated this into the bible, which is where a lot of problems have ocurred. I'm not to sure what today's Christian's believe about this topic, but their beliefs should remain within the pages of the bible. I don't know if many Christian's know that evolution is a force to be reckoned with. I've realized throughout my life that a lot of Christian's turn their back on God due to these false doctrines and theologies, not to mention the millions and billions of people throughout the world that have accepted it. So i'm here to try to shed some light on this topic.

1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 "Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is good."

Pretty much in these verses God is telling us to prove all things that are good and to not believe in false teachings (evolution). One thing that really upsets me is the false teachings that are being taught throughout schools that are leading people away from God, one of these teachings is evolution. Just to give everyone some background information as to why evolution is taught in schools, a guy by the name of John Dewey came up with the idea of "progressive education" (which is in almost every school system throughout America). He was the first President of the American Hummanist Association which is the largest athiest group in America. What he did was to gain control of the literature that was being published throughout schools and have it available to them. Anyway long story short this is why evolution is taught in schools to this day. He adopted the research and information of Darwin and published it in school books. THIS is why evolution is such a big deal for me, it is affecting millions and billions of people throughout the world and tricking them into believing in a false theology/doctrine and leading them away from God.

As Christian's we should be holding onto what is true not only in life but in our hearts also. A guy by the name of Russ Miller says that True Science is a Christian's best friend. Look for his ministry online because he has some amazing stuff that will give light to this situation.

Here are just some examples of why evolution is false:
1) The bible says that the earth is approximately 6,000 years old. So why does everyone believe that the earth and universe are millions and billions of years old????
The answer is because we have been taught that but there is no evidence to back this theory up. All the dating techniques used like Carbon dating and Radio isotope dating DO NOT work. Even the strata layers do not give us the right information because all the fossils found throughout them are scattered between the "oldest" and the "youngest" layers. Fossils that supposedly date millions/billions of years ago are found in the "youngest" layers and visa versa. I think they are like that due to the global flood that the bible talks about.
2) There isn't one so called "missing link" ever to have been discovered, NEVER. Darwin stated, "If my theory be true, numberless intermediate varieties.... must have assuredly existed."
3) DNA Code Barrier and Gene Depletion. Not to go into to much detail, but there is no way to add appreciable DNA to a gene pool and there are practically no beneficial mutations that occur in nature (99.9% of mutations are fatal).

These are just a couple of reasons why evolution didn't happen. There's a lot of science behind all this that i'm not going to get into because there is just so much.

Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children."

This truly is a big issue, let me know what you think and if I have given any valuable information to you. PHXIGNITED

[Godrocks]

I take a biology class that is based on Christian view, but it still teaches about evolution, and from what I learned from the class evolution is false. First of all, as you stated, carbon dating can prove otherwise. Also, all of the occurences that have to happen for evolution to have happened is like 1 and 1 Billion chances. Looking at this, it is more likely that God exists rather than evolution happening.

It is really sad how the theory of evolution takes people away from God.

[Katy-The-Kangeroo]

i didnt read the post, but i get your idea, and scientists say how and chrisitans say why

[man of G0d]

By all means show me where in the Bible it says the earth is 6000 years old?

[XxAstron12xX]

it doesn't sir... well at least not that i remember... but that has been kept track by the Jews. and it doesn't say that the earth is 300 trillion years old their.

[red_converse]

By all means show me where in the Bible it says the earth is 6000 years old?

yeah, that's not in my Bible either.

And the Jews generally only kept track of big events. And we've made plenty of mistakes and figuring it out. According to our calendar, Jesus should actually have been born around 4 or 5 BC. No one's perfect. And this is where faith comes in. We can't know everything.

There are some aspects of evolution that are true, like adaptation. There's a tribe up in the mountains in S. America who live in freakishly high elevation that most humans can't survive in.

And I really hate to burst your bubble, but C.S. Lewis was an evolutionist, along with many Christian leaders we've looked up to.

I don't believe evolution is true (it's called a theory, right?), but you have to educate yourself in ways to counter it, and when dealing with people who do believe in evolution, oftentimes, "the Bible says so," won't do it. Try reaching into apologetics. Bill Morgan argues for Creation, and does an excellent job: http://www.fishdontwalk.com/

It takes far more faith to believe that we evolved from monkeys than to believe in God. So don't judge these people, but have mercy on them and pray for them instead.

[man of G0d]

I don't believe in evolution. I just don't understand the common Christian belief that the earth is 6000 years old.

[red_converse]

It's actually not THAT common. ^^ I'm not sure where I stand on that one, though. There's a lot of evidence for many of the Creation theories to be true, but... maybe I'll save that question for later.

[XxAstron12xX]

oh sorry i can do that sometimes:/ but the numbers that are included in the bible add up to a certain point and that where what the Jews have on record and those numbers cross.

[XxAstron12xX]

and I've come to the realization that we shouldn't judge the Christians that believe evolution. we just base our beliefs on the bible whereas they base theirs on a book.

[XxAstron12xX]

i would give the first person to give me scientific proof that evolution is real like 5 million dollars. (lol)

[red_converse]

There was a Bible many years ago that was printed with a date of Creation and the date for the flood and all that. But tradition is to track the important events, not every single year. And we tend to make mistakes even if they were all recorded (i.e. Herod died in 4/5 BC, and Jesus was born during his reign, etc).

Not everyone who believes in evolution (Christian or not) is purposefully trying to make others stray either. Some are legitimately looking for answers. Like C.S. Lewis and Lee Strobel. They tried so hard to prove God didn't exist, and when people really try and look for truth, they find it. But some people are trying to find truth where it doesn't exist for many reasons. Something about faith and grace freaks people out. These people are lost. Sometimes dangerous, but definitely always lost. We can't judge them for that.

Can you say that C.S. Lewis, having been an evolutionist, was following something that tried to lead away from God? I think he was pretty legit, and he was most definitely a Christian. Please be wary of the words you use. You say that you judge sometimes but say "oops" in regards to it, but the words you use afterwards don't show any change.

[man of G0d]

oh sorry i can do that sometimes:/ but the numbers that are included in the bible add up to a certain point and that where what the Jews have on record and those numbers cross.

Yeah I'm aware of that, that seems to be the basis for the "6000 year old earth" belief.

I'm not judging anyone or trying to step on anyone's toes and I try to keep Romans 14:1 in mind. I just don't understand why so many Christians believe the 6000 years theory when true science is constantly showing us more and more how old our planet really is. Just take the dinosaurs for an obvious example. When did they live?

Without trying to delve deeper right now, I want to throw out one thing for all you thinkers that are interested.

In Gen 1:2 it says "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

That word "waters" is mah'-yim in Hebrew and it means a wasting water, urine, semen, (among other things).

If those waters included urine, waste, and semen, what does that tell me?

Well I'm not gonna make any statements but that alone sure does spark off a lot of questions doesn't it?

[XxAstron12xX]

well in response to red_converse i would like to say that i was talking about Darwin. and Darwin was a Christian until his best friend died and even after that he knew God existed:/ he came up with evolution with the intention of leading people away from God:( in his dying moments he said that evolution was not true and would never have any real plausible evidence.

[Bob]

You should check out a website called AnswersInGenesis.org

I'm not saying that these people are 100% correct about everything, because who really is, but it does a good job of showing a different point of view. Sometimes it's best to read into things before thumbing your nose at it.

[XxAstron12xX]

i like answers in genesis:) i don't agree with all their stuff but for the most part it's pretty good:)

[red_converse]

well in response to red_converse i would like to say that i was talking about Darwin. and Darwin was a Christian until his best friend died and even after that he knew God existed:/ he came up with evolution with the intention of leading people away from God:( in his dying moments he said that evolution was not true and would never have any real plausible evidence.

If you wouldn't mind giving me a reference to that, I'd appreciate it, cuz everything I've read about Darwin's beliefs so far doesn't include that conclusion.

Also, there was a book claimed that Darwin had reverted back to Christianity on his sickbed, but the claims were rejected by Darwin's children and have been dismissed as false by historians. There's controversy with that, but CARM has done some expository research in this.

Carm.org is a great apologetics website. Like AnswersInGenesis (who also has a section on this topic), you have to take things with a grain of salt, but the CARM guys wrote an article on Darwin and whether or not he recanted, too. http://carm.org/secular-movements/evolution/did-darwin-become-christian-his-deathbed

There's evidences on both sides, so we can't know for sure. Somehow I really don't believe Charles Darwin was ever truly a believer from what I've studied about him, but who knows.

[XxAstron12xX]

I'll have to do that tomorrow cuz it's 2:55am here (ugh) and i need to go to bed prolly.

[red_converse]

I'll have to do that tomorrow cuz it's 2:55am here (ugh) and i need to go to bed prolly.

got a reference for me yet?

[XxAstron12xX]

I'm about to start looking.