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Postby His » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:43 am

phreakydude wrote:well thank you.

I for one would LOVE to have ANY hair, let alone have it be long!


Bald men are sexy, phreaky....

Your wife digs it.... :)
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Postby n2gsus » Tue Oct 24, 2006 10:44 am

im partial to long hair myself.

but bald is beautiful hehe
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Postby C.A.LeeJr » Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:15 pm

what about bald women? :eek:
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Postby His » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:24 pm

Bald women, uh, not so sexy...

But, I'm not attracted to women at all.. SO, don't guess I'm qualified to answer..

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Postby implodespw » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:55 pm

God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. If long hair was good enough for Sampson, it is good enough for me.
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Postby phreakydude » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:45 pm

His wrote:
phreakydude wrote:well thank you.

I for one would LOVE to have ANY hair, let alone have it be long!


Bald men are sexy, phreaky....

Your wife digs it.... :)


ok... can I move this to the "most embarrassing moment" thread now? :blush: :mrgreen:
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Postby phreakydude » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:49 pm

I have a question sort of related... why is it people always say, "Well, Jesus had long hair."

Where is the proof of that? Is it from all the artist renderings? They don't know what Jesus looked like either, so where does this idea come from?

Man this is a stupid conversation... no offense, but Romans was written for a reason. Let's read it again people!
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Postby SevenFaith » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:18 pm

Most people disagree whether he had long or short hair. You can find just as many to say he had long as you can to say it was short. Apparently it is important to some people. If you believe the Shroud of Turin is real he had long hair.

To me it doesnt matter. I think his hands and feet he had peirced for me and you are the most beautiful things ever so I could care less what his hair looked like. :D I agree lets read Romans again!
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Postby implodespw » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:20 pm

phreakydude wrote:I have a question sort of related... why is it people always say, "Well, Jesus had long hair."

Where is the proof of that? Is it from all the artist renderings? They don't know what Jesus looked like either, so where does this idea come from?

Man this is a stupid conversation... no offense, but Romans was written for a reason. Let's read it again people!


Does Romans say I should have no hair :eek:
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Postby phreakydude » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:23 pm

No, it says deal with your own stuff, and don't go out of your way to cause a weaker brother/sister in the faith to stumble. And GRACE, GRACE, GRACE!!!! Thank God we don't get what we deserve!

wear your hair the way you want, if someone doesn't like it, it's their issue. just leave it at that and try to live reasonably with all men, if possible.
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Postby Michael » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:56 am

Paul was saying to not dress like a prostitute or dressing up skanky or like a slut.

You could tell a prostitute back then during that time by the person's extreme long hair, and the men at that time did the samething.

You got to remember and keep in mind what city it was that Paul was writting to in 1st and 2nd Corinthians.

Corinth back then was worse than Las Vegas is now.

Corinth back then was the sex and prostitution captial of the world at that time during Ancient Greece.

The temple of aphrodite was there in that town. The goddess of lust, passion, and pornography.

Corinth was a town just to come to for a 1 night stand, and then leave the next day on your journey or trip elsewhere.


Also, you are not going to be tossed in The Lake of Fire to burn just b/c of having long hair.

My gosh, even Jesus had long hair!
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Postby phreakydude » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:42 am

Michael wrote:Paul was saying to not dress like a prostitute or dressing up skanky or like a slut.

You could tell a prostitute back then during that time by the person's extreme long hair, and the men at that time did the samething.

You got to remember and keep in mind what city it was that Paul was writting to in 1st and 2nd Corinthians.

Corinth back then was worse than Las Vegas is now.

Corinth back then was the sex and prostitution captial of the world at that time during Ancient Greece.

The temple of aphrodite was there in that town. The goddess of lust, passion, and pornography.

Corinth was a town just to come to for a 1 night stand, and then leave the next day on your journey or trip elsewhere.


Also, you are not going to be tossed in The Lake of Fire to burn just b/c of having long hair.

My gosh, even Jesus had long hair!


did you even read this thread? Where is the evidence (besides the Shroud of Turrin) that Jesus had long hair? I HATE that excuse because it is a LAZY answer. Read the Word and KNOW why you do or don't ANYTHING.
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Postby FORGED BY FIRE » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:38 am

phreakydude wrote:
Michael wrote:Paul was saying to not dress like a prostitute or dressing up skanky or like a slut.

You could tell a prostitute back then during that time by the person's extreme long hair, and the men at that time did the samething.

You got to remember and keep in mind what city it was that Paul was writting to in 1st and 2nd Corinthians.

Corinth back then was worse than Las Vegas is now.

Corinth back then was the sex and prostitution captial of the world at that time during Ancient Greece.

The temple of aphrodite was there in that town. The goddess of lust, passion, and pornography.

Corinth was a town just to come to for a 1 night stand, and then leave the next day on your journey or trip elsewhere.


Also, you are not going to be tossed in The Lake of Fire to burn just b/c of having long hair.

My gosh, even Jesus had long hair!


did you even read this thread? Where is the evidence (besides the Shroud of Turrin) that Jesus had long hair? I HATE that excuse because it is a LAZY answer. Read the Word and KNOW why you do or don't ANYTHING.


Sorry guys, but short haircuts, the way we think of them today "above the shoulders, were instituted by the romans. The hebrew people did not have this concept until the heathen romans brought it in. The only times jewish people shaved someones hair that short was at the end of their nazarite vow or if they were going to be a slave.

One verse of special interest is Leviticus 19:27, which commands the Jews, "Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard." This command is given in context of special observances connected with astrology or funerals. However, that does not mean that it had no application for daily living. The Jews believe that this command has to do with the shaving of the temples of the head, a practice once connected with idolatry. This may explain the locks of hair worn by many of the Orthodox Jews today.

However, the verse was probably an injunction against the shaving of the entire head for purposes of idolatry. It is connected with the marring of the corners of the beard. We know the importance of the beards to the Jews because of the shame of those who had half their beards shaved off and the instructions from David that these men tarry in Jericho until their beards grew back (2Samuel 10:4-5). If their beards were not important, then why not just shave them off entirely and return to Jerusalem? But if they took their beards so seriously, then they probably took the shaving of their heads just as seriously. An exception was made for the Nazarite who ended his vow with the shaving of his head (Numbers 6:18-19).


What does this verse tell us about Jesus? We know that He kept the law. If He was not to shave His head, then He did not do so. But this does not mean He would have long hair in the way seen in modern movies. It only means that it would not shave down to His scalp.

However bear in mind scissors were not invented yet. Im sure some people could afford sharp knives but it would make for a pretty ragged haircut. There may have been razor style blades but im not seeing the typical jewish person of that time letting that happen. Especially when such haircuts would associate them with their opressors. Though after awhile of roman occupation some jews may have taken it up. Somehow im just not seeing jews who took shaving so seriously playing around with using a knife that close to there scalp. So it would be hard for me to imagine.

Also bear in mind that shaving of the hair was considered a symbol of shame and morning in the old testament.

Note 14 at 1 Cor. 11:16: Despite Paul's warning to the contrary, many people have become contentious about this issue of whether men and women should pray with their heads covered and what is the proper length of hair for each gender. This was not the point that Paul was making

Paul simply drew on a custom of the day to illustrate that he (Paul) was not anybody's spiritual head. They (men and women) were under submission to Christ and women also should submit to their husbands. That was it. That was his point. He was not trying to establish a dress code for all ages.

People who have tried to use these scriptures to freeze the length of men's hair styles to those of the 1950's are misapplying these scriptures. The scriptures never specified how short short was. According to writings of the first century, the typical Jewish man's hair length was to his shoulders. This would be unacceptable to those who use these scriptures to be contentious.

Likewise, religious groups who use these scriptures to get women to wear doilies or other coverings have missed the point. No one is better off if they do these things and no one is worse off if they don't. This was a custom of Paul's day that he used for illustration, not a commandment from the Lord.

Believers are free to observe their own customs in these matters as long as they do not preach these customs to others as law. Believers who understand the true meaning of Paul's teaching here should not criticize other believers who have missed the point and are "hung-up" on the illustration. These are not pivotal doctrinal points.
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Postby Polish Tom » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:48 am

Thanks, Forged. I was thinkin you would have some insight on this topic.
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Postby KaintBkwite » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:12 pm

FORGED BY FIRE wrote:People who have tried to use these scriptures to freeze the length of men's hair styles to those of the 1950's are misapplying these scriptures.


Yes, as I observed in a restaurant Friday evening when a family from a certain church came in and the dad and his poor son had enough greasy hair pomade in that they looked like matching father and son mannequins for a Sears and Roebuck store....straight out of a time warp.


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Postby osu122975 » Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:38 pm

....And the sign says 'Long haired freaky people, need not apply.'

:p ;)

We'll see how many 80's people get that......
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Postby Warthog » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:22 pm

ghs1994 wrote:....And the sign says 'Long haired freaky people, need not apply.'

:p ;)

We'll see how many 80's people get that......


Oh, I got it. In the 80's I WAS a long haired, freaky person.


And what nate said about Jesus' hair....*NEWS FLASH*



Jesus most likey wasn't white either.

At least not lily white as most often portrayed.
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Postby C.A.LeeJr » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:31 pm

...you mean Jesus was a Jew?! :eek:

:| :p :p
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Postby phreakydude » Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:29 am

yeah the Bible even says that Ephraim. :p

but people wouldn't know that if the only exposure to Jesus they have is through traditionalism and holywood.
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Postby Navaboy » Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:47 pm

I don't think it is bad to have long hair.I don't find anything in the Bible that says men can't have long hair. I don't know why people think this is bad. :|
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