ghs1994 wrote:I have a question. Does each person in here who claims to speak in tongues realize they are doing this? Do you understand what you are saying? Is it a known language? Is there someone there to interpret if you don't know what you are saying? Can you speak in tongues any time you want or does this come upon you suddenly as the Spirit gives you the ability?
I ask because I am a doubter of this gift still being in use today and especially the reverance the Pentecostal/Charismatic churches give to this gift.
Does each person in here who claims to speak in tongues realize they are doing this?
Do you understand what you are saying?
Is it a known language?
Is there someone there to interpret if you don't know what you are saying?
Can you speak in tongues any time you want or does this come upon you suddenly as the Spirit gives you the ability?
SevenFaith wrote:I have heard of many who do go to other countries and use them. But actually they are to be interpretated in Church and other than that they are a prayer language. If they were just so foreigners could hear us and know what we say and hear the gospel why would we need an interpretor? There would be no reason for that biblical instruction if they were not an unknown language to us.
That is not the way the bible instructs us to use them. So if I was to say speaking in tongues means you have to go speak that to the world so they can understand you that would be unbiblical to me.
It is each persons right to believe in the gift of tongues for today or not. I have my reasons and am confident in my belief. I feel I am doing what God wants me to do but I understand you are uncomfortable with it. I am not going to try to convince anyone I am right and they are wrong. I dont think that. This is just what I believe.
SevenFaith wrote:I am not offended by your post. If Christians cant communicate and learn from each other and even disagree at times but still love we are really a mess.
I agree with you about the Day of Pentecost and why I think it is good of ones who do use it in foreign lands and with different cultures. That is another example of how they were used. It is example but not how they are instructed to be used is what I was referring to but I see your point.
Without being too long maybe I can explain in short format why I believe tongues are for today. I was raised in a DEAD church who never mentioned Jesus when we did go. When I got saved over 11 years ago (at a Disciple concert lol).. the venue was a ministry. It was the only church I knew so they wanted me to come back Sunday. I did since it was all I knew.. That first Sunday they told me I needed the baptism of the Holy Spirit and to speak in tongues. They were the only Christians I knew so I believed what they were telling me was right. I have had the ability to speak in tongues every since.. shortly after some BAD things went on at that church and we left. I was just learning to study and read on my own what the bible says. I heard the arguement that it is not for today. Problem with that for me was I could. I spent a indepth amount of time and Prayer. Honest hard deep prayer to know that what I did was what God wanted. In that first few months as a christian and into the first year.. I prayed that if it was not of God take it away. Through much confirmation and study God showed me that it was from him. Sometimes "bad" people can preach a message and people get saved but that doesnt change the fact they believed and got saved. God showed me eventhough that church had problems what I prayed for from him. I know some believe differently but if I was unsure of what God has put in my heart I would too paranoid to use it. It would bother me. I feel confident in it only after searching for myself and seeking God on it. I dont know that is for everybody but I know what it means for me. As a prayer language sometimes when I am speechless and dont know what to say. And I feel burdened I can use that and I feel better and edified. I dont know every purpose God has for it today but only what is between me and him.
That is the short version but I jut wanted to explain why I believe.
You handle yourself very well. You always have as far as I can remember and even if not every time we are all human here and sometimes we let human emotions control us. I try not to let that happen and ask forgiveness if I do or have. You are very much the gentleman. God bless you for your kind words and I enjoy discussing with you. I by no means claim to have all the answers or the "right" way. I just feel sure I am on the path God laid for me (flaws and falling down at times of course) lol...
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